el anarquismo no esta completo si no se acoge a las aseñanzas que el satanismo moderno nos da: libertad, individualismo, intolerancia contra la estupidez, etc.
si eres anarquista ingresa a la unica iglesia que no reprime tu libertad si no que la alimenta, la unica en la que cada uno es su propio dios
Las Nueve Declaracione Satánicas
de La Biblia Satánica, ©1969
por Anton Szandor LaVey
[English, French, Croation]
1. Satán representa la complacencia, en lugar de la abstinencia!
2. Satán representa la existencia vitalista, en lugar de los sue–os espirituales!
3. Satán representa la sabidur’a perfecta, en lugar del hip—crita auto enga–o!
4. Satán representa amabilidad hacia quienes la merecen, en lugar del amor malgastado en los ingratos!
5. Satán representa la venganza, en lugar de ofrecer la otra mejilla!
6. Satán representa responsabilidad con el responsable, en lugar de la preocupación por los vampiros ps’quicos!
7. Satán representa al hombre como otro animal, algunas veces mejor, otras veces peor que aquellos que caminan en cuatro patas, el cual, por causa de su "divino desarrollo espiritual e intelectual" se ha convertido en el animal m‡s vicioso de todos!
8. Satán representa todos los llamados "pecados", si éstos conducen a la gratificaci—n f’sica, mental o emocional!
9. Satán ha sido el mejor amigo que siempre ha tenido la Iglesia, ya que la ha mantenido en el negocio todos Žstos a–os!
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Las Once Reglas Satánicas de la Tierra
por Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967
[English, Croation]
1. No des tu opini—n o consejo a menos que te sea pedido.
2. No cuentes tus problemas a otros a menos que estŽs seguro que quieran o’rlos.
3. Cuando estŽs en el h‡bitat de otra persona, muestra respeto o mejor no vayas all‡.
4. Si un invitado en tu hogar de enfada, tr‡talo cruelmente y sin piedad.
5. No hagas avances sexuales a menos que te sea dada una se–al de apareamiento.
6. No tomes lo que no te pertenezca a menos que sea una carga para la otra persona y estŽ clamando por ser liberada de la misma.
7. Reconoce el poder de la magia si la has utilizado con éxito para obtener tus deseos. Si niegas el poder de la magia después de haberla utilizado con ñexito, perderás todo lo que has conseguido.
8. No te quejes sober algo que no tenga que ver contigo.
9. No hieras niños pequeños.
10. No mates animales no-humanos a menos que seas atacado, o para alimentarte.
11. Cuando camines en territorio abierto, no molestes a nadie. Si alguien te molesta, pídele que se detenga. Si no lo hace, destrúyelo.
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Los Nueve Pecados Satánicos
por Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987
[English]
1. Estupidez - El nœmero uno de los Pecados Sat‡nicos. El Pecado Cardinal del Satanismo. Es una l‡stima que la estupidez no duela. La ignorancia es una cosa, pero nuestra sociedad prospera cada vez más en la estupidez. Depende de las personas que est‡n de acuerdo con cualquier cosa que se les dice. Los medios de comunicaci—n promueven una estupidez cultivada como una postura que no s—lo es aceptable sino loable. Los Sat‡nistas deben aprender a ver a travŽs de Žsos trucos y no pueden permitirse el ser estúpidos.
2. Pretenciosidad - Las actitudes vac’as pueden ser muy irritantes y no se aplican a las reglas cardinales de Magia Menor. Se encuentra al mismo nivel de la estupidez, ya que ambos mantienen el dinero en circulaci—n estos d’as. Se hace que todo el mundo se sienta la gran cosa, as’ lo sean o no.
3. Solipsismo - Puede ser muy peligroso para los Sat‡nistas. Es proyectar tus reacciones, respuestas, y sensibilidades en alguien que probablemente est‡ bien lejos de sentirlas como tœ. Es caer en el error de esperar que las personas te den la misma consideraci—n, cortes’a, y respeto que tœ les das. No lo har‡n. En lugar de ello, los Satanistas deben esforzarse en aplicar el proverbio "Trata a los dem‡s como te traten a ti." Funciona para la mayor’a de nosotros y requiere una vigilancia constante para no caer en la c—moda ilusi—n de que todos son como tœ. Como se ha dicho, ciertas utop’as ser’an ideales en una naci—n de fil—sofos, pero desgraciadamente (o quiz‡s afortunadamente, desde un punto de vista maquiavélico) estamos bien lejos de tal cosa.
4. Auto-engaño - Est‡ en las Nueve Declaraciones Sat‡nicas pero merece ser repetido aqu’. Otro pecado cardinal. No debemos rendir tributo a cualquiera de las vacas sagradas que se nos presentan, incluso aquellos roles que se espera que interpretemos. La œnica vez que el auto enga–o tendr’a cabida ser’a cuando es divertido, y siendo consciente de ello. ÁPero entonces, deja de ser auto enga–o!
5. Conformismo Gregario - Desde un punto de vista Sat‡nico resulta más que obvio. Est‡ bien acoplarse a los deseos de una persona, si al final te trae algœn beneficio. Pero s—lo los necios siguen al reba–o, permitiendo que una entidad impersonal tes diga lo que tienen que hacer. La clave es escoger a un amo sabiamente en lugar de ser esclavizado por los antojos de muchos.
6. Falta de Perspectiva - De nuevo, Žste puede causar un mal rato a un Satanista. Nunca debes perder de vista quiŽn y quŽ eres, y la amenaza que puedes ser, por tu misma existencia. Estamos haciendo historia ahora mismo, todos los d’as. Ten siempre presente el marco hist—rico y social en el que vives. ƒsa es una clave importante para la Magia Menor y Mayor. Mira los par‡metros y encaja las cosas de tal manera que las piezas encajen en el orden que desees que queden. De Žsta manera no estar‡s oscilando entre el constre–imiento del reba–o ÑsŽ consciente de que est‡s trabajando en otro nivel completamente diferente al del resto del mundo.
7. Olvido de las Ortodoxias del pasado - Ten en cuenta que Žsta es una de las claves para lavarle el cerebro a la gente para que acepten algo como "nuevo" y "diferente", cuando en realidad es algo que hab’a sido aceptado ampliamente pero es presentado en un nuevo empaque. Se espera que nos asombremos y hablemos del genio del "creador" y nos olvidemos del original. Esto es lo que hace a una sociedad desechanle.
8. Orgullo Contraproducente - La segunda palabra es importante. El orgullo est‡ bien hasta que llega a un punto en el que comienza a afectarnos. La regla del Satanismo es: si funciona para t’, grandioso! Cuando deja de hacerlo, cuando te has arrinconado y la œnica manera de salir es decir, "lo siento, comet’ un error, desear’a que pudiŽramos arreglarlo de alguna forma," entonces h‡zlo.
9. Falta de Sentido de Estética - ƒsta es la aplicaci—n f’sica del Factor de Equilibrio. El sentido de la estética es importante en la Magia Menor y debe ser cultivado. Es obvio que casi nadie puede hacer mucho dinero basándose en los parámetros clásicos de forma y belleza, ya que no son fomentados por la sociedad de consumo, pero cieerto sentido de la belleza y la proporción es una herramienta Satánica esencial y debe ser aplicada para hacer un uso efectivo de la magia. No es lo que se supone que le guste a uno Ñes lo que le guste a uno. La estŽtica es una cosa muy personal, que refleja algo de la naturaleza de uno mismo, pero tambiŽn existen cosas y estructuras que son universalmente consideradas como agradables y placenteras que no deben negarse.
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Como puedes ver, en la Iglesia de Satán no existen elementos de adoraci—n al Diablo. Tales pr‡cticas son vistas como herej’as Cristianas; como la creencia en la visi—n dualista del mundo (Dios vs. el Diablo) y el elegir aliarse al Pr’ncipe de las Tinieblas. Los Satanistas no creen en lo sobrenatural, ni en Dios o el Diablo. Para el Satanista, Žl es su propio Dios. Sat‡n es un s’mbolo del hombre viviendo tal como se lo dicta su naturaleza orgullosa y carnal. La realidad detr‡s de Sat‡n es la de la fuerza oscura evolucionaria que es la entropía y que permea todo en la naturaleza y provee los medios para la supervivencia y la subsecuente propagaci—n de todos los seres vivos. Sat‡n no es una entidad consciente que deba ser adorada, sino una reserva de poder dentro de cada ser humano para ser utilizada a voluntad. Por esto es que cualquier concepto de sacrificio es rechazado como una aberraci—n Cristiana —en el Satanismo o hay deidad a la cual sacrificarse.
El Satanismo valora el individualismo, algo que difícilmente se consigue andando por la calle. Sin embargo, no adoptamos una actitud de indiferencia donde todos los valores son relativos y que nada sobresale por encima del fango de lo común. El Satanismo preconiza un retorno a valores m‡s "tradicionales" en el arte y la literatura como el dominio de la tŽcnica y la comunicaci—n emocional, de forma y funci—n, dise–o y desempeño. Los Satanistas encuentran mucho material valioso en la Cultura Occidental que merece ser atesorado como pináculo de los logros humanos, y no para que sean enterrados bajo la capa de los intentos multiculturalistas de desplazarlos con "logros" dudosos simplemente por ser No-Occidentales, como se hace últimamente en algunos c’rculos acadŽmicos. Exhortamos a cada individuo a buscar la grandeza humana donde quiera que pueda ser encontrada, tanto de las b—vedas de la historia y como de los productores talentosos del presente, y hacer mofa de las farsas de moda exponiéndolas como las fachadas superficiales que son. Como el Satanismo defiende la aceptación del Hombre como un animal, y han habido muchos creadores de culturas del pasado que se han apropiado de éste concepto y lo han explorado en el contexto de su sociedad, es por esta razón que buscamos dichas expresiones artístixcas y filosóficas y las consideramos como las raíces de nuestra actual toma de conciencia.
anarquismo y su relacion innegable con el satanismo
Hace unos días, en el foro, me convencieron de la existencia del Diablo, en el hilo ese de argumentos a favor y en contra de Dios, pues ni corto ni perezoso, ya dado que Dios no responde a mis preces, me puse a invocar a Satán. Hice el penthagrama en el comedor después de ingerir cierto vrevaje infernal que hace el frutero, me desnudé con total escándalo de diversos parientes mayores que yo, y huntando mi cuerpo con diversos afeites entre los que predomina el ajo, solicité la presencia del demonio con el fin de venderle mi alma a cambio de que me toque la lotería primitiva, que llevo jugando a la misma combinación desde que salió el juego ese hace más de veinte años, y ni el reintegro me ha tocado ¡nunca!, ni lo jugado. ¿Es imposible? Pues no. Yo soy la prueba. Así que invoco al diablo, y Lucifer no viene, y si ya que no exista Dios es mosqueante, que no exista el diablo es sumamente penoso. ¿Qué es lo que hago mal?
Hubo un periódico anarquista en el siglo XIX llamado Lucifer. Es cierto que Bakunin dijo que Lucifer era el primer rebelde de la historia (aunque fuera mitica) y como tal lo saludaba. Pero ya solo faltaban los anarcosatánicos. Joer, si el cristianismo tiene poca base, el satanismo ni te digo ya que surgió a partir de este.
cagon dióh
Jorge yo creo que la formula esta en huntarse en semen de jugadores de futbol como beckham. Venga maxote, a ligar 
"¡Utopía! Gritan los gallos bienpensantes. Dejadla de una vez por todas a un lado, adversarios, esta acusación de utopía que nos honra y que es la prueba de que no tenéis argumentos válidos que oponernos"
¡Alto, policía!
¡Alto, policía!
Nada mas que añadir.Jorge. escribió:Como comprenderás Skaneto, si consigo huntarme el cuerpo con semen del Beckam ese, no necesitaré al demonio. Me bastará con vender la exclusiva al salsa rosa y que me contraten en el crónicas. Ñam ñam.
"¡Utopía! Gritan los gallos bienpensantes. Dejadla de una vez por todas a un lado, adversarios, esta acusación de utopía que nos honra y que es la prueba de que no tenéis argumentos válidos que oponernos"
¡Alto, policía!
¡Alto, policía!
Lo siento, Erick 666, estaba claro, el tema era carne de ingobernables. Mi cuestión es ¿realmente tú procesas la religión satánica? ¿hablas en serio? ¿santificas las fiestas? ¿no pronuncias el nombre de satán en vano? Al menos te lo pasarás mejor que los cristianos, pero te perderás también lo mejor del cristianismo que es PECAR...
Bueno, entre los satanistas laveyanos hay de todo: desde fachos y ultranietzschianos hasta anarquistas y conservadores.
Aquí un gracioso pleito que hubo entre anarcos y satanos conservadores no hace mucho:
Carta de la Conservative Satanic Agenda a la Federación Anarquista Internacional (IFA):
Salutations and warm regards!
We at the Conservative Satanic Agenda (CSA) believe that in these frightening and confusing times, it is vitally important to put aside our individual differences and SUPPORT OUR LEADERS. Now more than ever, we need leaders in Washington who will stand firm in defense of our national interests, both here and abroad.
The Bush Administration has stood for America through a horrifying crisis and potentially endless war, and we as a nation must continue to support the strength that our leaders have come to represent, so that we may remain the most powerful nation on earth. We at CSA are of the highest hope that you will consider the timely importance of standing behind strong leadership when going to the polls this fall.
Thank you for your consideration.
For more information on the CSA, see below.
The Nine Satanic Statements
By Anton Szandor LaVey
1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
By bowing out of the Kyoto treaty and refusing to discuss global climate change, President Bush has insured that American industries will continue to prosper.
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
. Now more than ever, citizens of the modern world require prosperity and growth to meet the challenges of the coming era, and we believe that among politicians, the Bush Administration is uniquely in touch with this reality.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
We at CSA wholeheartedly endorse Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's recent statements to the effect that it's not important whether the world approves of our impending strikes against Iraq; it is only important that we do what we know to be right.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
The Bush Administration has consistently and intelligently linked aid to third world countries to development, and backed away from wasting resources on dead-end welfare programs.
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
We call your attention to The Administration's masterful retaliation against Al-Queda and their sympathizers after 9/11.
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for vampires!
Civilization as we know it runs on energy. It is very important that our energy sources remain secure and intact. President Bush lives with the burden of this awesome responsibility every day.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those who walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
---- "These are the kind that go to a cave and send youngsters to their
suicidal death. That's the kind of people we're fighting. But there's no
cave deep enough for America, or dark enough to hide." George W.
Bush, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Aug. 29, 2002
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
While it may not be politically expedient to discuss what George W. did prior to becoming Governer of Texas, we would like to simply say that this man most certainly has our confidence.
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
CSA strongly supports President Bush's faith-based social programs.
**************************
Y la respuesta de la IFA:
13 points against satanism
An anarchist manifesto - libertarians are against satanism
Reply to a manifesto/declaration from the Conservative Satanic Agenda (CSA) in USA.
1. Introduction: 'Teacher' (i.e. in the meaning of the satanists'/CSA's 'master' = beelzebub, mephistopheles, lucifer, dracula, skeletor, hitler, stalin, franco, mussolini, pol pot, reagan, tatcher etc. in short the arch-enemy, satan, i.e. enemy of anarchon, anarchy and anarchism as defined on http://www.anarchy.no/ija431.html ) leave us kids alone! ... the dark (brown) sarcasm in the classroom... 'Teacher'! Leave us kids alone! (based on 'Pink Floyd's - the Wall')
2. "Support Bush", the Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, declares. Our answer is: "Not principally, and the documented authoritarian tendencies - anarchists support a libertarian fight against terrorism, rule by terror - and all forms of ruling, man by man. Especially we are against (more) strong rule in America. Leaders - in the meaning of authorities; - the master, is principally not "our"...
3. In such cases where the societal management, public included, is significantly influenced - broadly defined - from the people, anarchists included, the grassroots - in a democratic way - from the bottom upwards - i.e. the bureaucracy mainly supports us and is not acting significant authoritarian; it is however...
4. - rational to have some limited co-operation in a way between the people and the management, i.e. from case to case - as allies - and not fellows, but principally we don't support "our" leaders - they are not ours - but more or less class enemies.
5. In fact we, the anarchists - and more or less the people in general - are via different actions always trying to set limits and borders for the authorities and their activities, to see to that ...
a) they de facto are acting as much as possible in the interest of the people, as a part of the general fight for more horizontal organization - i.e. more anarchy in general, and thus that
b) the leaders/management act as little as possible as archs, i.e. monarchy, oligarchy, polyarchy, ochlarchy (mob rule), plutarchy, and/or rivaling 'states within the state' i.e. social chaos - in short act as the arch-enemy, master, devil, satan, i.e. bestiality...; and
c) not the other way around, i.e. we, the people, the anarchists included - are acting as and/or being relatively or absolutely slaves and the leaders are "our" relatively or absolutely masters. All tendencies of slavery we are working very much against.
6. As analysed by the International Conference, see IJ@ 4(31) updated, (click on) http://www.anarchy.no/ija431
and on http://www.anarchy.no in general, in the case of terrorism and war-criminals; -
a) the anarchists in general are supporting the anti-terror-coalition formed after the 11.09.2001 terrorist attacks against the Twin Towers etc., and no anarchist is for terrorism, i.e. rule by terror.
b) However as clearly documented a.o.t. at the http://www.anarchy.no, the Bush-bureaucracy has several times used the terrorist-problem as an excuse for actions towards trying to be "the masters of the universe" like a 'skeletor', rule the world, and create an Orwellian "1984" big brother system world wide, and we strongly oppose such tendencies.
7. In this way we are opposed to - not supporting - the world leaders, the Bush-bureaucracy included, a.o.t. because we see a tendency of ruling, archies and arch, the arch-enemy - a real danger against the libertarian, in some of the Bush-administrations policy. It is impossible to 'cure a pestilence with colera' and 'drive out the devil with beelzebub', although perhaps smart to trick them into fighting each other, in the fight for the libertarian, but tendencies of USA as a satanic master-state of the world - we are as mentioned strongly against, and we continue to fight against such tendencies.
8. Thus we are clearly against the manifesto of the Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, and their conclusion "SUPPORT OUR LEADERS" as a general statement. If we do so, i.e. follow the CSA's manifesto, we will, as the CSA most likely wants, probably end up in a real hell on earth. Anarchists, although being neither devils nor angels nor religious, but principally atheists, are working towards the quite opposite of hell and the satanic, i.e. for anarchy: an approximately optimal population in all countries of the world, plus freedom, equality and solidarity and other anarchist principles, including efficiency and fairness, libertarian human rights, socialism and autonomy, in short the libertaire as the French people say; with "NEITHER GOD - NOR MASTER , I.E. SATAN INCLUDED".
9. The Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, should go to hell were they belong, they are conservatives , probably with more than 666 per thousand authoritarian degree on the agenda, and we take a clear stand against their manifesto. Furthermore, anarchists are principally against the satanic in any form, hell in real terms. Anarchy and anarchism are more than 50% degree of anarchy, have less than 50% authoritarian degree, but satanism and hell are something with more than 666 per thousand authoritarian degree. Thus, satanism and anarchism are contradictions, in reality have nothing in common. Anarchists may never, seen all in all, have a significant satanic tendency, i.e. be significant authoritarian. In case a person is significant authoritarian, satanic included, the one is no anarchist.
10. We are here of course discussing realities, politics, - not just role plays with demons, horror-movies as Dracula, "satan-rock", satanic literature as "Faust" and "Divina Comedia", etc, i.e. cultural virtual 'reality'. Furthermore we don't take the "Nine Satanic Statements" quoted below - as such - seriously, - to us it is just a bit weird piece of fantasy literature. To put it simple - the "Nine Satanic Statements" are just a bunch of lies and weird authoritarian policy. People really believing in this must be more or less crackpots. We also see the funny ironical point that the US satanists are supporting their leader, mr Bush, the "Great Satan" according to Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. However, when used for action, in criminal sects, and/or in politics - as in this case, concrete support to authoritarian tendencies, we must take a clear stand against it.
11. We have received this note from the Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, sent to several sections of the Anarchist International - without anybody asking for it, and thus must be on their mail-lists. To avoid misunderstandings and getting mixed up with this weird political tendency, we state clearly that we are in no way related, or associated to the CSA, or other satanic organizatons. Anarchism and satanism are contradictions. As mentioned, anarchists take a clear stand against satanism in real terms, i.e. of all forms and shapes.
12. The satanists' "satanic power", "magical formulæ", "number magic", are just confused fantasies, and of course in no way influence our policy - as we don't believe in such 'psychological' and 'hypnotic' humbug. However although fantasy, based on pure superstition, it may affect the actions of people that believe in such nonsens via psychological ruling, similar to wich-doctors and woo-doo priests, i.e. an authoritarian tendency. Thus, as mentioned, anarchists take a clear stand against satanism in real terms of all forms and shapes.
13. Any attempt to draw a connection between anarchism and satanism, i.e. in real terms, is false, and will be rejected, as the first mentioned is about anarchies, the second about archies, more or less hell. As satanism as a religion is based on superstition, fantasies about magical formulæ, etc, the number 13 is seen as a bad omen. Thus the satanists should take this anarchist manifesto; "13 points against satanism" as a bad omen for themselves and their 'master', and if they try to infiltrate or getting mixed up with the anarchist movement, we will 'give them hell' in a way that they don't like and approve of. Anarchists are working for - and towards - heaven on earth, not the opposite i.e. hell - with more than 666 per thousand authoritarian degree, as CSA.
Thus we also reject the false "Salutations and warm regards!" from CSA - To us it feels authoritarian, cold included ...
Satanists! Leave us - and politics - and stop with your authoritarian nonsense in general!
Anarchist greetings
M. Solberg
Councillor - the Anarchist International
PS. When doing authoritarian "masters of the universe" type policy, the Bush-bureaucracy should think of who support them, i.e. the conservative satanists.... and think twice!
Aquí un gracioso pleito que hubo entre anarcos y satanos conservadores no hace mucho:
Carta de la Conservative Satanic Agenda a la Federación Anarquista Internacional (IFA):
Salutations and warm regards!
We at the Conservative Satanic Agenda (CSA) believe that in these frightening and confusing times, it is vitally important to put aside our individual differences and SUPPORT OUR LEADERS. Now more than ever, we need leaders in Washington who will stand firm in defense of our national interests, both here and abroad.
The Bush Administration has stood for America through a horrifying crisis and potentially endless war, and we as a nation must continue to support the strength that our leaders have come to represent, so that we may remain the most powerful nation on earth. We at CSA are of the highest hope that you will consider the timely importance of standing behind strong leadership when going to the polls this fall.
Thank you for your consideration.
For more information on the CSA, see below.
The Nine Satanic Statements
By Anton Szandor LaVey
1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
By bowing out of the Kyoto treaty and refusing to discuss global climate change, President Bush has insured that American industries will continue to prosper.
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
. Now more than ever, citizens of the modern world require prosperity and growth to meet the challenges of the coming era, and we believe that among politicians, the Bush Administration is uniquely in touch with this reality.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
We at CSA wholeheartedly endorse Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's recent statements to the effect that it's not important whether the world approves of our impending strikes against Iraq; it is only important that we do what we know to be right.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
The Bush Administration has consistently and intelligently linked aid to third world countries to development, and backed away from wasting resources on dead-end welfare programs.
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
We call your attention to The Administration's masterful retaliation against Al-Queda and their sympathizers after 9/11.
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for vampires!
Civilization as we know it runs on energy. It is very important that our energy sources remain secure and intact. President Bush lives with the burden of this awesome responsibility every day.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those who walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
---- "These are the kind that go to a cave and send youngsters to their
suicidal death. That's the kind of people we're fighting. But there's no
cave deep enough for America, or dark enough to hide." George W.
Bush, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Aug. 29, 2002
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
While it may not be politically expedient to discuss what George W. did prior to becoming Governer of Texas, we would like to simply say that this man most certainly has our confidence.
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
CSA strongly supports President Bush's faith-based social programs.
**************************
Y la respuesta de la IFA:
13 points against satanism
An anarchist manifesto - libertarians are against satanism
Reply to a manifesto/declaration from the Conservative Satanic Agenda (CSA) in USA.
1. Introduction: 'Teacher' (i.e. in the meaning of the satanists'/CSA's 'master' = beelzebub, mephistopheles, lucifer, dracula, skeletor, hitler, stalin, franco, mussolini, pol pot, reagan, tatcher etc. in short the arch-enemy, satan, i.e. enemy of anarchon, anarchy and anarchism as defined on http://www.anarchy.no/ija431.html ) leave us kids alone! ... the dark (brown) sarcasm in the classroom... 'Teacher'! Leave us kids alone! (based on 'Pink Floyd's - the Wall')
2. "Support Bush", the Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, declares. Our answer is: "Not principally, and the documented authoritarian tendencies - anarchists support a libertarian fight against terrorism, rule by terror - and all forms of ruling, man by man. Especially we are against (more) strong rule in America. Leaders - in the meaning of authorities; - the master, is principally not "our"...
3. In such cases where the societal management, public included, is significantly influenced - broadly defined - from the people, anarchists included, the grassroots - in a democratic way - from the bottom upwards - i.e. the bureaucracy mainly supports us and is not acting significant authoritarian; it is however...
4. - rational to have some limited co-operation in a way between the people and the management, i.e. from case to case - as allies - and not fellows, but principally we don't support "our" leaders - they are not ours - but more or less class enemies.
5. In fact we, the anarchists - and more or less the people in general - are via different actions always trying to set limits and borders for the authorities and their activities, to see to that ...
a) they de facto are acting as much as possible in the interest of the people, as a part of the general fight for more horizontal organization - i.e. more anarchy in general, and thus that
b) the leaders/management act as little as possible as archs, i.e. monarchy, oligarchy, polyarchy, ochlarchy (mob rule), plutarchy, and/or rivaling 'states within the state' i.e. social chaos - in short act as the arch-enemy, master, devil, satan, i.e. bestiality...; and
c) not the other way around, i.e. we, the people, the anarchists included - are acting as and/or being relatively or absolutely slaves and the leaders are "our" relatively or absolutely masters. All tendencies of slavery we are working very much against.
6. As analysed by the International Conference, see IJ@ 4(31) updated, (click on) http://www.anarchy.no/ija431
and on http://www.anarchy.no in general, in the case of terrorism and war-criminals; -
a) the anarchists in general are supporting the anti-terror-coalition formed after the 11.09.2001 terrorist attacks against the Twin Towers etc., and no anarchist is for terrorism, i.e. rule by terror.
b) However as clearly documented a.o.t. at the http://www.anarchy.no, the Bush-bureaucracy has several times used the terrorist-problem as an excuse for actions towards trying to be "the masters of the universe" like a 'skeletor', rule the world, and create an Orwellian "1984" big brother system world wide, and we strongly oppose such tendencies.
7. In this way we are opposed to - not supporting - the world leaders, the Bush-bureaucracy included, a.o.t. because we see a tendency of ruling, archies and arch, the arch-enemy - a real danger against the libertarian, in some of the Bush-administrations policy. It is impossible to 'cure a pestilence with colera' and 'drive out the devil with beelzebub', although perhaps smart to trick them into fighting each other, in the fight for the libertarian, but tendencies of USA as a satanic master-state of the world - we are as mentioned strongly against, and we continue to fight against such tendencies.
8. Thus we are clearly against the manifesto of the Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, and their conclusion "SUPPORT OUR LEADERS" as a general statement. If we do so, i.e. follow the CSA's manifesto, we will, as the CSA most likely wants, probably end up in a real hell on earth. Anarchists, although being neither devils nor angels nor religious, but principally atheists, are working towards the quite opposite of hell and the satanic, i.e. for anarchy: an approximately optimal population in all countries of the world, plus freedom, equality and solidarity and other anarchist principles, including efficiency and fairness, libertarian human rights, socialism and autonomy, in short the libertaire as the French people say; with "NEITHER GOD - NOR MASTER , I.E. SATAN INCLUDED".
9. The Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, should go to hell were they belong, they are conservatives , probably with more than 666 per thousand authoritarian degree on the agenda, and we take a clear stand against their manifesto. Furthermore, anarchists are principally against the satanic in any form, hell in real terms. Anarchy and anarchism are more than 50% degree of anarchy, have less than 50% authoritarian degree, but satanism and hell are something with more than 666 per thousand authoritarian degree. Thus, satanism and anarchism are contradictions, in reality have nothing in common. Anarchists may never, seen all in all, have a significant satanic tendency, i.e. be significant authoritarian. In case a person is significant authoritarian, satanic included, the one is no anarchist.
10. We are here of course discussing realities, politics, - not just role plays with demons, horror-movies as Dracula, "satan-rock", satanic literature as "Faust" and "Divina Comedia", etc, i.e. cultural virtual 'reality'. Furthermore we don't take the "Nine Satanic Statements" quoted below - as such - seriously, - to us it is just a bit weird piece of fantasy literature. To put it simple - the "Nine Satanic Statements" are just a bunch of lies and weird authoritarian policy. People really believing in this must be more or less crackpots. We also see the funny ironical point that the US satanists are supporting their leader, mr Bush, the "Great Satan" according to Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. However, when used for action, in criminal sects, and/or in politics - as in this case, concrete support to authoritarian tendencies, we must take a clear stand against it.
11. We have received this note from the Conservative Satanic Agenda, CSA, sent to several sections of the Anarchist International - without anybody asking for it, and thus must be on their mail-lists. To avoid misunderstandings and getting mixed up with this weird political tendency, we state clearly that we are in no way related, or associated to the CSA, or other satanic organizatons. Anarchism and satanism are contradictions. As mentioned, anarchists take a clear stand against satanism in real terms, i.e. of all forms and shapes.
12. The satanists' "satanic power", "magical formulæ", "number magic", are just confused fantasies, and of course in no way influence our policy - as we don't believe in such 'psychological' and 'hypnotic' humbug. However although fantasy, based on pure superstition, it may affect the actions of people that believe in such nonsens via psychological ruling, similar to wich-doctors and woo-doo priests, i.e. an authoritarian tendency. Thus, as mentioned, anarchists take a clear stand against satanism in real terms of all forms and shapes.
13. Any attempt to draw a connection between anarchism and satanism, i.e. in real terms, is false, and will be rejected, as the first mentioned is about anarchies, the second about archies, more or less hell. As satanism as a religion is based on superstition, fantasies about magical formulæ, etc, the number 13 is seen as a bad omen. Thus the satanists should take this anarchist manifesto; "13 points against satanism" as a bad omen for themselves and their 'master', and if they try to infiltrate or getting mixed up with the anarchist movement, we will 'give them hell' in a way that they don't like and approve of. Anarchists are working for - and towards - heaven on earth, not the opposite i.e. hell - with more than 666 per thousand authoritarian degree, as CSA.
Thus we also reject the false "Salutations and warm regards!" from CSA - To us it feels authoritarian, cold included ...
Satanists! Leave us - and politics - and stop with your authoritarian nonsense in general!
Anarchist greetings
M. Solberg
Councillor - the Anarchist International
PS. When doing authoritarian "masters of the universe" type policy, the Bush-bureaucracy should think of who support them, i.e. the conservative satanists.... and think twice!
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Barakapunk
Los Satanistas, nada tienen que ver con los Satanicos. Esa igualdad, la creó el Cristianismo par poder ir contra ellos. Desde Galileo, hasta Miguel Angel fueron segun tengo entendido, Satanistas o más bién Iluminatis.
Lucifer, quiere decir el que lleva la luz.
No estoy proponiendo que todos nos hagamos Satanistas, sino que la historia es segun nos la cuentan, que no hay que dar nada por cierto sea quien sea quien lo cuente; en el libro que estoy leyendo (novela histórica) habla de que incluso Marx fué un Iluminati-Satanista.
Por otra parte esta gente suele (segun los libros) estar en altos puestos de poder, tanto económico como político, y por supuesto no adoran al diablo ¿o sí? sino a la ciencia.
En este último libro, se dice que en los dolares americanos, en una esquina, hay un símbolo Satanista-Iluminati. De todas maneras, están infintrados en cualquier sitio, ¿nos acordamos de los Masones?.
Koldo
PD el tema como la existencia de Dios, el cristianismo...es interesante pero no lo veo aquí.
Lucifer, quiere decir el que lleva la luz.
No estoy proponiendo que todos nos hagamos Satanistas, sino que la historia es segun nos la cuentan, que no hay que dar nada por cierto sea quien sea quien lo cuente; en el libro que estoy leyendo (novela histórica) habla de que incluso Marx fué un Iluminati-Satanista.
Por otra parte esta gente suele (segun los libros) estar en altos puestos de poder, tanto económico como político, y por supuesto no adoran al diablo ¿o sí? sino a la ciencia.
En este último libro, se dice que en los dolares americanos, en una esquina, hay un símbolo Satanista-Iluminati. De todas maneras, están infintrados en cualquier sitio, ¿nos acordamos de los Masones?.
Koldo
PD el tema como la existencia de Dios, el cristianismo...es interesante pero no lo veo aquí.
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PROMETE0
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EN REALIDAD,BUSH,LOS GRUPOS CHECHENOS,ALGUNOS CIENTIFICOS LOCOS ETC....SON MAS PELIGROSOS QUE TODOS VOSOTROS JUNTOS,EN REALIDAD EL MOVIMIENTO SATANICO ES UNA FALACIA,UNA ESPECIE DE MAFFIA QUE SURGIO EN LOS 90,DE AHI SALIERON ASESINOS BARATOS,PROSTITUTAS MENORES DE EDAD,NARCOTRAFICO Y ALGUNA QUE OTRA HEREJIA, COCTEL DE ARTES MARCIALES,JERARQUIA INFLEXIBLE Y UN MILLON DE DEFECTOS QUE NO VIENEN AL CASO...
DE TODAS MANERAS,OS RECOMIENDO UN LIBRO EXCELENTE DE NIETSCHE: "MAS ALLA DE EL BIEN Y DEL MAL".
DE TODAS MANERAS,OS RECOMIENDO UN LIBRO EXCELENTE DE NIETSCHE: "MAS ALLA DE EL BIEN Y DEL MAL".
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